Comments on: About http://www.breathinginthemoon.com in search of enlightenment Sun, 04 Jul 2010 20:57:27 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jo Langevin http://www.breathinginthemoon.com/about/comment-page-2/#comment-28 Jo Langevin Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:19:36 +0000 http://www.breathinginthemoon.com/?page_id=2#comment-28 Very interesting, Charlene. I did not know you had done so many exciting and varied things. I am very impressed. I am eager to share in your journey and admire you for your bravery. ( Robin says you have been in California too long.) Very interesting, Charlene. I did not know you had done so many exciting and varied things. I am very impressed. I am eager to share in your journey and admire you for your bravery. ( Robin says you have been in California too long.)

]]> By: Charlene Nevill http://www.breathinginthemoon.com/about/comment-page-2/#comment-15 Charlene Nevill Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:42:06 +0000 http://www.breathinginthemoon.com/?page_id=2#comment-15 This makes my hair hurt – kind of like calculus. Can you separate these thoughts out a bit so I can get a better hold on what you're saying? Have you found this to be true? This makes my hair hurt – kind of like calculus. Can you separate these thoughts out a bit so I can get a better hold on what you’re saying? Have you found this to be true?

]]> By: Gary Shodo http://www.breathinginthemoon.com/about/comment-page-2/#comment-14 Gary Shodo Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:44:44 +0000 http://www.breathinginthemoon.com/?page_id=2#comment-14 Also Charlene, It has been said that the very thing that causes us to seek, like your journey, is the very thing we are seeking. Wonder what that is, or do we need to go anywhere to seek being awake.? Also Charlene,

It has been said that the very thing that causes us to seek, like your journey, is the very thing we are seeking. Wonder what that is, or do we need to go anywhere to seek being awake.?

]]> By: Gary Shodo http://www.breathinginthemoon.com/about/comment-page-1/#comment-13 Gary Shodo Thu, 03 Sep 2009 10:51:35 +0000 http://www.breathinginthemoon.com/?page_id=2#comment-13 Doug Dyment said, "Buddhism & Hinduism both have versions of enlightenment, but I think that neither view should be permitted to constrain ones perception of the concept." Doug, If I'm hearing you right.... then no constaints on the freedom to conceptualize is most important. What if it were said that human concepts about the universe may be what keeps one from understanding? Maybe being awake is not what you think. Charlene said, "why do we want to ‘experience’? Maybe you could answer that one. Turn about is fair play!" Maybe change and experience happen in every moment and we are right in the middle of it every moment. Do we have a choice? Thank all of you for your answers or views on this universe. Looking through your eyes warms and helps me. Bowing to you, Gary Shodo Doug Dyment said,

“Buddhism & Hinduism both have versions of enlightenment, but I think that neither view should be permitted to constrain ones perception of the concept.”

Doug, If I’m hearing you right…. then no constaints on the freedom to conceptualize is most important.

What if it were said that human concepts about the universe may be what keeps one from understanding? Maybe being awake is not what you think.

Charlene said,

“why do we want to ‘experience’? Maybe you could answer that one. Turn about is fair play!”

Maybe change and experience happen in every moment and we are right in the middle of it every moment. Do we have a choice?

Thank all of you for your answers or views on this universe. Looking through your eyes warms and helps me.

Bowing to you,
Gary Shodo

]]> By: Charlene Nevill http://www.breathinginthemoon.com/about/comment-page-1/#comment-12 Charlene Nevill Wed, 02 Sep 2009 23:48:11 +0000 http://www.breathinginthemoon.com/?page_id=2#comment-12 I will let Angelika speak for herself in response to your questions about 'awakening' and our 'true sources'. As for duality, it's an integral part of life on this planet and of every religion. Dark and light; good and evil; yin and yang; masculinity and femininity are all representations of this principle. In Neale Donald Walsch's book Conversations with God, book 1, God explains that his reason for creating duality was so he could know Himself experientially. And we, as God's spirit children can only experience a thing if we come to know its opposite. I know, I know, why do we want to 'experience'? Maybe you could answer that one. Turn about is fair play! I will let Angelika speak for herself in response to your questions about ‘awakening’ and our ‘true sources’. As for duality, it’s an integral part of life on this planet and of every religion. Dark and light; good and evil; yin and yang; masculinity and femininity are all representations of this principle. In Neale Donald Walsch’s book Conversations with God, book 1, God explains that his reason for creating duality was so he could know Himself experientially. And we, as God’s spirit children can only experience a thing if we come to know its opposite. I know, I know, why do we want to ‘experience’? Maybe you could answer that one. Turn about is fair play!

]]> By: Doug Dyment http://www.breathinginthemoon.com/about/comment-page-1/#comment-11 Doug Dyment Wed, 02 Sep 2009 22:40:52 +0000 http://www.breathinginthemoon.com/?page_id=2#comment-11 I don't think "enlightenment" can truly be defined. It's an inner happening, and just as it can manifest in many ways, it can be experienced in many ways as well. While I think it's fine to talk *about* enlightenment, and the transcendence of desire & suffering, it's ultimately a concept too elusive for precise definition. Buddhism & Hinduism both have versions of enlightenment, but I think that neither view should be permitted to constrain one's perception of the concept. I don’t think “enlightenment” can truly be defined. It’s an inner happening, and just as it can manifest in many ways, it can be experienced in many ways as well. While I think it’s fine to talk *about* enlightenment, and the transcendence of desire & suffering, it’s ultimately a concept too elusive for precise definition.

Buddhism & Hinduism both have versions of enlightenment, but I think that neither view should be permitted to constrain one’s perception of the concept.

]]> By: Gary Shodo http://www.breathinginthemoon.com/about/comment-page-1/#comment-10 Gary Shodo Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:18:32 +0000 http://www.breathinginthemoon.com/?page_id=2#comment-10 Hearing some wisdom? Lots to chew on here. Waiting to hear more. Angelika said, " Discovering and awakening our true Sources ....." How does one awaken? Can one know when they are awake? What is the true source? This sounds improtant. "Enlightenment now becomes a journey of integrating and accepting all of life, our lives as they are...." What is our lives as they are? Charlene said, " we’re still faced with mankind’s duality..." What is mankind's duality? It sounds as if is trouble. Hearing what you both are saying but maybe need to hear more. Please help me. Thanks you for your caring. Hearing some wisdom? Lots to chew on here. Waiting to hear more.

Angelika said,
” Discovering and awakening our true Sources …..”

How does one awaken? Can one know when they are awake? What is the true source? This sounds improtant.

“Enlightenment now becomes a journey of integrating and accepting all of life, our lives as they are….”

What is our lives as they are?

Charlene said,
” we’re still faced with mankind’s duality…”

What is mankind’s duality? It sounds as if is trouble.

Hearing what you both are saying but maybe need to hear more. Please help me.

Thanks you for your caring.

]]> By: Charlene Nevill http://www.breathinginthemoon.com/about/comment-page-1/#comment-9 Charlene Nevill Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:01:01 +0000 http://www.breathinginthemoon.com/?page_id=2#comment-9 Hmmm . . . Perhaps I misspoke. Words do get us in a tangle, don't they. It's not just a matter of feeling, but of knowing in every cell of our being that we have unlimited abilities to meet any challenge, to create anything we can imagine, and to imagine things that have never before been created. Will this make us happy or wise? I have no idea. While we remain on this planet, we're still faced with mankind's duality. And I can't say that enlightenment should be a goal for you; only you can make that decision. That's what free will is all about, yes? Hmmm . . . Perhaps I misspoke. Words do get us in a tangle, don’t they. It’s not just a matter of feeling, but of knowing in every cell of our being that we have unlimited abilities to meet any challenge, to create anything we can imagine, and to imagine things that have never before been created. Will this make us happy or wise? I have no idea. While we remain on this planet, we’re still faced with mankind’s duality. And I can’t say that enlightenment should be a goal for you; only you can make that decision. That’s what free will is all about, yes?

]]> By: Angelika http://www.breathinginthemoon.com/about/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Angelika Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:14:50 +0000 http://www.breathinginthemoon.com/?page_id=2#comment-7 I think, Charlene, that the first step to enlightenment is indeed remembering who we really are, and the big question is how to wake up beyond the world of the five senses to find that inner light that connects us to our own spirit and the source of all things. Enlightenment in the last age of civilization was achieved most often by those who exhibited a rigorous discipline that required leaving behind life's material seductions. Here, a practice of devoted mediation in austere surroundings not encroached upon by the chaos of the world was necessary. But in this current age of civilization, we must forge a new way. Now we are meant to find enlightenment within our daily lives as they are. Sri Aurobindo aptly wrote, "He who would save the world must be one with the world." We no longer can leave behind our normal lives, walking away from the imbalances in our relationships to each other and the natural world. Instead, we must enter life more deeply to understand its great mystery, and this is accomplished by simplifying our lives to get back in tune with the deeper joys and meaning of life. Lessening our distractions, turning off our TVs and computers is essential - buying our way through passing gratifications can no longer sustain us. It is time to live a move spiritual life at home by walking in nature, creating gardens for food, sharing quality time with family and friends and reaching out to help each other. We must rediscover out real inner strength and tolerance, allowing us to treat everyone with equality and kindness despite their shortcomings, and to honor and respect the natural world in all its diversity. These things feed our spirits and can quickly awaken a light within us that empowers us to make changes to our material world, and this in turn creates a foundation for our spirits to realign with that inner thread of Source present in all beings. Enlightenment now becomes a journey of integrating and accepting all of life, our lives as they are, and rolling up our shirt sleeves for the hard work not only to benefit ourselves, but all because we recognize that we are all inextricably entwined. The more happiness and gratitude we can find in our own simple spiritual inspirations and childlike spontaneity then bonds us with life to enrich it. We then spiritualize matter itself, this is our challenge and privilege in this age. Discovering and awakening our true Sources within pulls us along to more deeply understand all that we are meant to become by our destiny as a species. I think, Charlene, that the first step to enlightenment is indeed remembering who we really are, and the big question is how to wake up beyond the world of the five senses to find that inner light that connects us to our own spirit and the source of all things. Enlightenment in the last age of civilization was achieved most often by those who exhibited a rigorous discipline that required leaving behind life’s material seductions. Here, a practice of devoted mediation in austere surroundings not encroached upon by the chaos of the world was necessary. But in this current age of civilization, we must forge a new way.

Now we are meant to find enlightenment within our daily lives as they are. Sri Aurobindo aptly wrote, “He who would save the world must be one with the world.” We no longer can leave behind our normal lives, walking away from the imbalances in our relationships to each other and the natural world. Instead, we must enter life more deeply to understand its great mystery, and this is accomplished by simplifying our lives to get back in tune with the deeper joys and meaning of life. Lessening our distractions, turning off our TVs and computers is essential – buying our way through passing gratifications can no longer sustain us.

It is time to live a move spiritual life at home by walking in nature, creating gardens for food, sharing quality time with family and friends and reaching out to help each other. We must rediscover out real inner strength and tolerance, allowing us to treat everyone with equality and kindness despite their shortcomings, and to honor and respect the natural world in all its diversity. These things feed our spirits and can quickly awaken a light within us that empowers us to make changes to our material world, and this in turn creates a foundation for our spirits to realign with that inner thread of Source present in all beings.

Enlightenment now becomes a journey of integrating and accepting all of life, our lives as they are, and rolling up our shirt sleeves for the hard work not only to benefit ourselves, but all because we recognize that we are all inextricably entwined. The more happiness and gratitude we can find in our own simple spiritual inspirations and childlike spontaneity then bonds us with life to enrich it. We then spiritualize matter itself, this is our challenge and privilege in this age. Discovering and awakening our true Sources within pulls us along to more deeply understand all that we are meant to become by our destiny as a species.

]]> By: Todd http://www.breathinginthemoon.com/about/comment-page-1/#comment-5 Todd Tue, 01 Sep 2009 19:23:28 +0000 http://www.breathinginthemoon.com/?page_id=2#comment-5 Your story has only just begun. I can't wait to see how things unfold! Your story has only just begun. I can’t wait to see how things unfold!

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